In the second hour of the interview with Irvin, Pacman is being asked about his numerous run-ins with the law. He has been arrested six times.
``I made some bad decisions,'' Pacman said.
Also, earlier in the show Jones admitted he deals with anger issues. So bad that he has anger management counseling which he said continues to help. He said he never had a substance issue, but anger was instead his substance problem.
Pacman did admit earlier in the interview that he is on a cliff and can only worry about helping himself right now.
``Ain't no time for slip-ups,'' he said.
Pacman is getting peppered with reasons for his multiple arrests. Never his fault, right? Not true, he says. That's mostly what he's standing by. Surprising, huh?
_ Rick Herrin