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Arrogance from the Mavs fanbase. First thing to note, they didnt win a playoff game this year. They are a LONG way from competing in the west with younger teams improving, and their older, high milage team winding down. In order to accomodate williams with amnesty and cap clear out, they are left with little support around him and dirk. 8 Seed.

The Nets had by FAR and away the most injuries in the league last year and had to shuffle many NBDL players up. With DWill, Brooks, Wallace, Hump, Lopez they were easily a playoff team. They have the deepest pockest and can buy draft picks. They have cap flexibility and young players that can be moved for bigger pieces. They have global appeal in Brooklyn with Prokhorov. The 3rd best player in the league, Dwight Howard, has several times reiterated to Magic management his desire to play in Brooklyn. They have a 25% chance of a top 3 pick this year.

There are more reasons than money to stay in Brooklyn.

yeah a 22-44 team that man handled the mavs last season... a 22-44 team that Dwill himself would have made the playoffs if it werent for their injuries which topped the nba this season.

i think the best point guard in the nba should stay right in brooklyn. all his frustrations in nj is gonna be all worth it. TRUST.

1 game last year is irrelevant..

The other advantage the Nets have over the Mavs is time. The Nets management have have had the past month to woo DWill...to parade him around the new arena, to introduce him to potential new sponsors, to share their plans for the future (both on and off the court)...and yes the wine him and dine him (and his better half) in Istanbul and Moscow.

The Mavs will be limited to a July 1st power point presentation, afterwhich Deron will be taking the first available charter flight (perhaps on Prokhorov's jet) to Las Vegas for Team USA training camp.

The Nets ability to woo their own free agents for 2 months prior to the July 1st "official" start of free agency is a huge advantage.

so you're looking back a year with the mavs, not noting how this year they got swept and are just another year older, yet use the nets record this year, and don't take into account that they lost the most manpower games of any team this year and have more cap space moving forward. I'm sure grandpas Carter, Terry and Marion and possibly J-Kidd with an aging Dirk are really appealing down the road.

awwww.... Look at the nets fans coming out of the woodwork. First of all, the Mavs are in for a complete make over. Dirk, Marion, Roddy B (i bet youve never heard of him), and B Wright will be on the roster. We could easily lose everyone else. We have money to play with too and have just as much appeal as Brooklyn. You want flashy lights? Or a team with 12 years in a row of playoff appearances in he WESTERN conferance. Nets cant even make the playoffs in a weak East. So get you facts straight before getting your panties in a whad because of the lack of seating on the nets bandwagon. You bums.

The Mavs are a great organization and Cuban is a helluva an owner..but are you implying that Dallas is a better city than NYC? Really? No disrespect, but that's a bit of headscratcher (and I'm not even from New York)

Dallas doesn't have half the appeal as New York City, especially from a global perspective. What money are you referring to? The owner has several times noted his desire to avoid the luxury tax. seems cost conservative.

brandan wright??? that's like saying the nets can show D-Will Shelden Williams in their squad. Roddy Beaubois played 12 minutes during the OKC Sweep.

The mavs are much closer to falling out of the playoff picture than they are toward advancing to a western conference final. With Williams and cap-filler, they are an 8 seed, but then again, they are just about that now.

When did a player leave $28 million on the table during the prime of his career? Add in the Brooklyn factor, greater marketing opportunities/dollars and a roster that has more flexibility and you can understand why the Williams family went to Moscow on "vacation." Face it, the Cavs have a better roster than the aging Mavs. #HelloBrooklyn

The Mavericks are old. His window of opportunity to win with Dirk is 2 years at most. If I were DWill, I would go to the Indiana Pacers. A good team that's young and has the salary cap room to sign him.

The Mavs may be old, but they have a history a success that the younger inexperienced Nets don't have. Dirk's prime years may be short, but what current Net besides DWill could even aspire to reach his success?

Babysitting young players through growing pains could be a turn off for Williams, who will already be a 7-year vet.

If Lebron James was willing to take less money to be with the Heat, it's entirely possible that DWill could do the same.

What greater marketing opportunities/dollars would Brooklyn offer over Dallas? The big money is in dealing with Multinational corporations, which market globally. Why didn't Lebron sign with the New York?

The Heat-Mavs comparison is not a good one. Bosh, James, and Wade all joining one team, a team that is harder to guard than any in the history of the game, is not equal to Deron Williams joining Dirk Nowitzki and older, past-their-prime players who fill out the roster.

Lebron didn't sign with New York because as they have stated, the three players came to an agreement while on Olympic duty. The sales pitches all fell on deaf ears.

What greater marketing opportunities are in NY rather than Dallas? Dwight Howard was rumored to received potentially $300M from Adidas if he went to Brooklyn, that's $100M more than Rose in Chicago. That offer doesn't exist in North Texas.

lol at nets fans thinking their team is better than the mavs. Keep dreaming..

the nets aren't better than the mavs now. by the start of training camp, they very well could be.

why do mavs fans think they will make the playoffs every year? sports are cyclical - players age and decline. the mavs are certainly declining.

"The Heat-Mavs comparison is not a good one. Bosh, James, and Wade all joining one team, a team that is harder to guard than any in the history of the game, is not equal to Deron Williams joining Dirk Nowitzki and older, past-their-prime players who fill out the roster. Lebron didn't sign with New York because as they have stated, the three players came to an agreement while on Olympic duty. The sales pitches all fell on deaf ears."

My point is that these players sacrificed immediate financial compensation and went after the goal of winning a championship instead. So yes, players in their prime can leave money on the table.

The gang of older nobodies outshined the superstar power of the "big 3". Does anyone on the Nets have that type of resume? Can you guarantee any future Net would be able to pull this off? As you stated, the Mavs roster is currently full of fill-ins. However, for the past decade, Mavs management has been able to continually replenish talent. Can you say the same about the Nets?

"What greater marketing opportunities are in NY rather than Dallas? Dwight Howard was rumored to received potentially $300M from Adidas if he went to Brooklyn, that's $100M more than Rose in Chicago. That offer doesn't exist in North Texas."

As I suggested before, marketing dollars has more do to with the player than with the location where he plays. Lebron played in small market Cleveland and then moved to the slightly larger market of Miami.

BTW, that offer from Adidas in Brooklyn, until otherwise confirmed, does not exist. It is, as you prefaced, a rumor.

"the nets aren't better than the mavs now. by the start of training camp, they very well could be."

Not really a strong selling point to retain DWill.

"why do mavs fans think they will make the playoffs every year? sports are cyclical - players age and decline. the mavs are certainly declining."

The Mavs front office has been able to field playoff rosters for 12 consecutive years. At least they foresaw the inevitability of rebuilding and prepared for it. Mavs may be declining, but the Nets have shown no sign of stopping their 5-year slide. Based on these comparisons, which front office instills more confidence?

the mavs are nowhere near a title. they have an old roster that was swept out of the playoffs as a 7 seed. you are banking on an athlete leaving $28M guaranteed on the table to join a declining team. Find a guy who left $28M on the table to begin with. You can find two that left $15M on it but created the best team in the NBA.

And the Adidas thing is obviously a rumour, just as Deron Williams considering a Dallas offer is. You are foolish to think that athletes aren't more marketable in big markets.

caveat with the heat example, james and bosh were able to execute a sign and trade under the old CBA which gave them an extra guaranteed year and all have ETO options, so Williams to Dallas would be a truly remarkable first with all that he'd be sacrificing to team up with, as posters have mentioned here, Dirk, Roddy B and Brandan Wright

It's all relative isn't it? I never said that the Mavs were close to being a title contender. Rather, I would trust the Mavs front office to assemble and maintain a playoff team much faster than Nets management could.

If it came down to a purely financial decision, then DWill should stay with the Nets.

However, you can see athletes taking less money to play with winning teams. James and Bosh are examples. Dirk took less money in his current contract to give the Mavs financial flexibility.

On top of that, the tax and cost of living differences between New York and Texas significantly knocks down the $28 million disparity.

If it came down to joining a young playoff team, then DWill will join the Pacers.

Yes, big markets tend to attract more money. However, consider that Deron would not be the biggest name in the New York BBK market and therefore would get a smaller piece of the local pie.

I really want to see why Nets fans think they even can be on the same level as the Mavericks. We are declining but the competition in the West will be a lot easier the next couple of years with OKC and Memphis being the only championship contenders. Do you really think D-Will wants to play the Heat, Bulls, and Pacers year in and year out? There's no way the Nets are going to get out of the first round if he stays in Brooklyn. Also, the Nets management is very behind compared to Dallas'. Who risks their potential top 3 pick for a player (Wallace) who has an option to go to free agency this summer? That Russian owner of yours does not know a thing about basketball and only cares about money. Trust me, D-Will has a better chance to win a championship in Indiana than Brooklyn.

To re-inforce my stance about the marketing deals following the player and not the market:

OKC's Durant and Orlando's Howard each earn far more in endorsement deals than either of the 2 NY Knicks superstars.

DWill's not as big in the marketing world as Howard and Durant are.

I just dont get the "old" talk. Look at the spurs and try to come at me with the "old" arguments. Surround vets with young talent and youre a force. Do you watch basketball or only talk based on what ESPN tells you? Amnesty Haywood and it frees a lot of cash as well from the cap. Deron said, its about winning. If its about winning PLUS the fact that he's fron here, I say Dallas has a solid chance. Just seems like the haters on here are getting a little nervous that he's leaving.

Given the state tax situation, the money is better in Dallas than NY. However, NY and Brooklyn is much better than DFW. You dont have to play in a big city for global appeal, personality will take care of that. Perhaps a share of HDNet will convince DWill to come home; but Mavs still need another piece or two.

However New Jersey and New York's state income-tax negate that. Not to mention cost of living. Take a look at what 2 million will buy in Texas homes and 2 million will buy in New Jersey/New York homes.

Expect more nice but second tier gming from Cuban and his publicity shield Donnie:

http://thedbcommirror.yuku.com...

And more wasted years with a top of league player like Dirk that should be winning titles like other once a decade kind of stars in the NBA. But, hey, Cuban is living out his dream of being an NBA GM.

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